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		<title>By: Michael W.</title>
		<link>http://www.practicalhacks.com/2009/11/09/packing-the-outdoor-products-essential-carry-on/comment-page-1/#comment-4930</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2010 18:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rick - I like the Eagle Creek Packing Folders precisely FOR the front and back stiffeners! That&#039;s what makes them different, to me, from simple packing cubes.

The OPEC has tie down straps. So I pack my EC Folder with the more important clothes (shirts and pants), Velcro it down as tight as the adjustments will allow, then put it on the bottom of the stack. Next up is an ordinary packing cube (something from Bihn) with uw/socks/etc. Then a light jacket or fleece for emergency in flight use (the 12 hour flights where the thermostat is set REALLY LOW. (I leave the fleece out of the cube/folder so I don&#039;t have to dig too deep for it.) 

The EC Folder gives the OPEC the stiffness and shape that it needs (no built-in padding in the OPEC to give it shape).

The next trip I am trying out an old Costco &quot;clothes hanger/folder&quot; mini garment bag recycled from an old Costco 22&quot; wheelie. This is a &quot;tri-fold&quot; with a loop for your own hangers and a master hanger at top for hanging the entire garment bag on a rack in the closet. 

The advantage of this old-style garment bag (thinned down for use INSIDE a wheelie) is that I don&#039;t have to fold my clothes, just place them on thin metal laundry hangers in the bag, then tri-fold it and put it in my OPEC. When I arrive, I just hang it in the closet, no unpacking. A few more wrinkles than careful EC Folder packing, but acceptable, and saves a lot of time packing and unpacking. 

Packing and unpacking and repacking hasn&#039;t been an issue for me before on trips, but next time I intend to do a couple of side trips, and I DON&#039;T want to have to spend so much time fussing with folding, putting on hangers, folding again.

BTW you can&#039;t use a regular garment bag for this packing alternative; you need an accessory style garment bag as included with some wheelies, otherwise the garment bag is simply too bulky and over-built.

Did you have any problems with the zippers opening by themselves during your trips?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rick &#8211; I like the Eagle Creek Packing Folders precisely FOR the front and back stiffeners! That&#8217;s what makes them different, to me, from simple packing cubes.</p>
<p>The OPEC has tie down straps. So I pack my EC Folder with the more important clothes (shirts and pants), Velcro it down as tight as the adjustments will allow, then put it on the bottom of the stack. Next up is an ordinary packing cube (something from Bihn) with uw/socks/etc. Then a light jacket or fleece for emergency in flight use (the 12 hour flights where the thermostat is set REALLY LOW. (I leave the fleece out of the cube/folder so I don&#8217;t have to dig too deep for it.) </p>
<p>The EC Folder gives the OPEC the stiffness and shape that it needs (no built-in padding in the OPEC to give it shape).</p>
<p>The next trip I am trying out an old Costco &#8220;clothes hanger/folder&#8221; mini garment bag recycled from an old Costco 22&#8243; wheelie. This is a &#8220;tri-fold&#8221; with a loop for your own hangers and a master hanger at top for hanging the entire garment bag on a rack in the closet. </p>
<p>The advantage of this old-style garment bag (thinned down for use INSIDE a wheelie) is that I don&#8217;t have to fold my clothes, just place them on thin metal laundry hangers in the bag, then tri-fold it and put it in my OPEC. When I arrive, I just hang it in the closet, no unpacking. A few more wrinkles than careful EC Folder packing, but acceptable, and saves a lot of time packing and unpacking. </p>
<p>Packing and unpacking and repacking hasn&#8217;t been an issue for me before on trips, but next time I intend to do a couple of side trips, and I DON&#8217;T want to have to spend so much time fussing with folding, putting on hangers, folding again.</p>
<p>BTW you can&#8217;t use a regular garment bag for this packing alternative; you need an accessory style garment bag as included with some wheelies, otherwise the garment bag is simply too bulky and over-built.</p>
<p>Did you have any problems with the zippers opening by themselves during your trips?</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Monroe</title>
		<link>http://www.practicalhacks.com/2009/11/09/packing-the-outdoor-products-essential-carry-on/comment-page-1/#comment-4925</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Monroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2010 06:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to see this bag reviewed. None of the other gear sites have given it any attention. So far, I&#039;ve carried mine on 17 two-week business trips to Europe and also on some vacation trips. It is lightweight and has been very durable and easy to handle on lots of planes, trains, and subways. It&#039;s got just one big main compartment, so I used to use the &quot;bundle&quot; method, which worked very well to prevent wrinkled shirts - but which is a fairly high maintenance way to pack. Now I just use a couple of eagle creek packing folder (but without the stiffener or the packing board). I&#039;ve tried lots of the other bags (only at home though) and returned them. They were usually too heavy or they didn&#039;t carry well. Turns out this cheapo bag beats them all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to see this bag reviewed. None of the other gear sites have given it any attention. So far, I&#8217;ve carried mine on 17 two-week business trips to Europe and also on some vacation trips. It is lightweight and has been very durable and easy to handle on lots of planes, trains, and subways. It&#8217;s got just one big main compartment, so I used to use the &#8220;bundle&#8221; method, which worked very well to prevent wrinkled shirts &#8211; but which is a fairly high maintenance way to pack. Now I just use a couple of eagle creek packing folder (but without the stiffener or the packing board). I&#8217;ve tried lots of the other bags (only at home though) and returned them. They were usually too heavy or they didn&#8217;t carry well. Turns out this cheapo bag beats them all.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Buividas</title>
		<link>http://www.practicalhacks.com/2009/11/09/packing-the-outdoor-products-essential-carry-on/comment-page-1/#comment-3189</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Buividas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 04:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom’s solution:

Or how to make an “Outdoor Products Essential Carry-on” or any other carry on a better piece of luggage. It’s a cheap and simple solution. This may be a stretch but here goes. This bag needs a stiffener; you all know that cheap little piece of cardboard covered with vinyl on the bottoms of most cheap duffel or sports bags. My old racquetball bags have them. I’ll bet if any of you go in your closet and check other bags you have a couple in the house. You can make one with a little stiff cardboard, or any other lightweight material and make it any size you want.

Now I don’t like to use bundling for packing, it’s a pain and is not simple if you are moving from place to place. Packing cubes are okay and could be used in my solution. But I prefer not, since I have to pack and unpack them. I prefer to fold my clothes and place them in the carry on. I attempt to fold as little as possible. Pack that suit case up. Pack it high.

Now the solution: put the stiffener on top of your clothes and cinch it down with the cinch straps. You now have a more even compression on all your clothes at the same time. This kind of works like one of those vacuum bags or like the Eagle Creek Pack It Folder; essentially you are pressing the air out of the clothes and tightening them against the stiffener. The entire bag becomes stiff.

Put your shoes and other goodies where ever you deem it appropriate, you will have plenty of room. Play with the stiffener. Try bigger and smaller ones. The possibilities are endless…

You could put an additional stiffener on the bottom of the suitcase, beneath you clothes. The bag becomes stiffer. Maybe even better compression on your clothes. If you anal about it you can even add extra cinch straps under the lower and above the upper stiffener and cinch the daylight’s out of it. 

What’s the problem with the solution? Added weight. But is there really? No packing cubes, no pack it folder, you really don’t need extra straps around the bag. We don’t have to worry about the zipper, the compression is internal. There is no extra cost, sowing straps on, or packing cubes needed. 

Now I unpack my bag and hopefully it worked like a Pack It Folder.

The only problem is that if you go through a security manual bag search they can’t see through your stiffener and may undo your cinch straps, but so what…thirty second later you’re on your way.

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom’s solution:</p>
<p>Or how to make an “Outdoor Products Essential Carry-on” or any other carry on a better piece of luggage. It’s a cheap and simple solution. This may be a stretch but here goes. This bag needs a stiffener; you all know that cheap little piece of cardboard covered with vinyl on the bottoms of most cheap duffel or sports bags. My old racquetball bags have them. I’ll bet if any of you go in your closet and check other bags you have a couple in the house. You can make one with a little stiff cardboard, or any other lightweight material and make it any size you want.</p>
<p>Now I don’t like to use bundling for packing, it’s a pain and is not simple if you are moving from place to place. Packing cubes are okay and could be used in my solution. But I prefer not, since I have to pack and unpack them. I prefer to fold my clothes and place them in the carry on. I attempt to fold as little as possible. Pack that suit case up. Pack it high.</p>
<p>Now the solution: put the stiffener on top of your clothes and cinch it down with the cinch straps. You now have a more even compression on all your clothes at the same time. This kind of works like one of those vacuum bags or like the Eagle Creek Pack It Folder; essentially you are pressing the air out of the clothes and tightening them against the stiffener. The entire bag becomes stiff.</p>
<p>Put your shoes and other goodies where ever you deem it appropriate, you will have plenty of room. Play with the stiffener. Try bigger and smaller ones. The possibilities are endless…</p>
<p>You could put an additional stiffener on the bottom of the suitcase, beneath you clothes. The bag becomes stiffer. Maybe even better compression on your clothes. If you anal about it you can even add extra cinch straps under the lower and above the upper stiffener and cinch the daylight’s out of it. </p>
<p>What’s the problem with the solution? Added weight. But is there really? No packing cubes, no pack it folder, you really don’t need extra straps around the bag. We don’t have to worry about the zipper, the compression is internal. There is no extra cost, sowing straps on, or packing cubes needed. </p>
<p>Now I unpack my bag and hopefully it worked like a Pack It Folder.</p>
<p>The only problem is that if you go through a security manual bag search they can’t see through your stiffener and may undo your cinch straps, but so what…thirty second later you’re on your way.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael W.</title>
		<link>http://www.practicalhacks.com/2009/11/09/packing-the-outdoor-products-essential-carry-on/comment-page-1/#comment-2982</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 14:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Compression straps may not be necessary. If you are traveling from a cold winter location to hot SE Asia, your &quot;take off&quot; winter jacket should fill any dead air space in the OPEC. Also remember the OPEC has internal straps, which may be sufficient.

Still there is no denying compression straps are helpful and they are one of the key features I like on my Rick Steves Convertible Classic.

To add them to the OPEC, buy some accessory straps from REI. You choose the buckle type, or the thread-through type. Either will work for this application.

Take your bag to the cheapest dry cleaners you can find - they almost always have a sewing machine and do alterations. I say cheapest because alterations pricing are often linked to their drycleaning pricing, if one is high, the other is likely to be high too.

Show them what you want to do - two straps, the mounting points - determine the strap length and decide whether to double the strap under the connection point, or to burn the edge. Burning the edge doesn&#039;t look as nice but is much easier for them to sew through. Their machine should handle the thickness of the strap and bag, if they have a weaker machine try another cleaner or a shoe repair store that does bag repairs too.

I recommend attaching the end points just on the far side of the top and bottom seams, for maximum compression. If you attach AT the seam or a little IN from the seam, you won&#039;t get as much compression.

Good luck! Keep in mind the repairs and straps will cost almost as much as the bag, but YMMV!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Compression straps may not be necessary. If you are traveling from a cold winter location to hot SE Asia, your &#8220;take off&#8221; winter jacket should fill any dead air space in the OPEC. Also remember the OPEC has internal straps, which may be sufficient.</p>
<p>Still there is no denying compression straps are helpful and they are one of the key features I like on my Rick Steves Convertible Classic.</p>
<p>To add them to the OPEC, buy some accessory straps from REI. You choose the buckle type, or the thread-through type. Either will work for this application.</p>
<p>Take your bag to the cheapest dry cleaners you can find &#8211; they almost always have a sewing machine and do alterations. I say cheapest because alterations pricing are often linked to their drycleaning pricing, if one is high, the other is likely to be high too.</p>
<p>Show them what you want to do &#8211; two straps, the mounting points &#8211; determine the strap length and decide whether to double the strap under the connection point, or to burn the edge. Burning the edge doesn&#8217;t look as nice but is much easier for them to sew through. Their machine should handle the thickness of the strap and bag, if they have a weaker machine try another cleaner or a shoe repair store that does bag repairs too.</p>
<p>I recommend attaching the end points just on the far side of the top and bottom seams, for maximum compression. If you attach AT the seam or a little IN from the seam, you won&#8217;t get as much compression.</p>
<p>Good luck! Keep in mind the repairs and straps will cost almost as much as the bag, but YMMV!</p>
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		<title>By: Tony B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 03:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just got my OPEC today and am preparing for a trip to South East Asia. Have read in a couple of places about fitting compression straps to the exterior of the OPEC. Any ideas or details would be real helpful, I&#039;m kind of new to all this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got my OPEC today and am preparing for a trip to South East Asia. Have read in a couple of places about fitting compression straps to the exterior of the OPEC. Any ideas or details would be real helpful, I&#8217;m kind of new to all this.</p>
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